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  I think he would make a good 'James Bond'. A thinking man's spy.

  by Esse quam videri in

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  cha ching

  Thanks, Esse quam videri! I love it!

  
  
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  Billy's comments to the RC #1 - "We always require at least two witnesses... except for when we don't."

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  i'm still trying to catch up on the rc broadcast posted to youtube, and i haven't been able to keep up with everything discussed here about it.

  however, there have been a few points that i wish i could submit.

  repeatedly it has been stated that unless there is a confession, jcs can only act on testimony if it is corroborated by two or more witnesses to the wrongdoing.

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  cha ching

  Thanx Billy, the WT has never held to "What's black is black, what is white is white"

  Can we all remember the 'What does 3 1/2 mean?"

  *** re chap. 27 p. 184 par. 26 God’s Kingdom Is Born! ***

  26 How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class.

  *** ts chap. 18 pp. 155-156 Why Many Now Living Have Opportunity Never to Die ***” For example, Revelation 11:2 speaks of a period of “forty-two months,” or three and a half years. In the next verse the same period is mentioned as being “a thousand two hundred and sixty days.” Now, if you were to divide 1,260 days by 42 months, you would get 30 days for each month. A year of 12 months would therefore be 360 days long. On this basis, “seven times,” or seven years, would be 2,520 days long (7 x 360).

  *** re chap. 25 p. 168 Reviving the Two Witnesses ***Notice that in examining the experiences of God’s people at this time, it appears that while the 42 months represent a literal three and a half years, the three and a half days do not represent a literal period of 84 hours. Likely, the specific period of three and a half days is mentioned twice (in verses 9 and 11) to highlight that it would be only a short period compared with the actual three and a half years of activity that precede it.
  
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  Kudos: for those of you who awakened with you significant others. You are so LUCKY!!!

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. experiences

  like the title says....those of you who made it out with you husbands or wives.

  you people are so lucky!!!.

  lucky because your wife or husband isn't brain dead and can think and reason for themselves.

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  cha ching

  That is a good summation Oppostate:

  adultery (putting other mates opionions ahead of your own, almost idolizing, right?)

  3 throng cord: What gives WT the right to be in the middle? and they ARE, aren't they...

  Perhaps asking a question, or making a statement that sounds as if you are talking to yourself, not directed at the significant other..... "I can't believe what is happening in Australia".... and not finishing the sentence for them... Or, "I wonder what would happen if the Royal Commission was in Britain? or Canada? or....." "I guess in these court hearings the Judge is really trying to help the children, and make it better for all victims of child abuse" and don't answer the question.... "Oh, never mind.... " "Well, the whole world is talking about it, I am sure it will be in the news soon"

  Something that would make their brains ask: "What are they talking about?" and do a search for it themselves....

  If your mate is a 'searcher', and likes to go through your computer history, leave the searches for "Royal Commission Australia" in the history? ;-)
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  cha ching

  Hi Kairos, my hubby & I say 'hi' and send you hugs... I understand how you feel, wanting to be free, and prevented by the evil organization.... This Aussie thing will open many eyes as to the workings of the org, and perhaps be the crack in the dam that will get things streaming, right?

  Hang in there, breathe.... hugs.......
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  My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

  he's most likely on a plane already.

  if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

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  cha ching

  I was thinking the same thing, Listener, as that is how the theocratic warfare game is played.

  "Omission"

  They swore to tell the WHOLE truth, not 'just' the parts asked.
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  Royal Commission Live Hearing Now

  by LostinJapan in

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  2. child-abuse

  wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

  case study 29, july 2015, sydney.

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  cha ching

  Splash, did u email this list to the RC? It's great, and shows just how creative the Org can be.

  WT does not use the same terminology in each instance, making it harder for anyone to be able to put their finger on it, which is all a part of their very well thought out "spiritual warfare."
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  Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

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  cha ching

  Perhaps, boc, they are saving this for the cherry on top!?
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  How are Pro-JW sites handling the RC situation ???

  by RubaDub in

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  2. scandals

  sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.

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  cha ching

  Good for YOU cattails! Yep, the GB can get on you tube and "lying say every wicked thing" that they want to say, but if anyone ELSE opens their mouth, and tells the truth they are APOSTATE!

  Right?
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  An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing

  by cofty in

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  2. child-abuse

  all jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.

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  cha ching

  I am going to write one also.... with many things included. Tho Angus and the judge, and the one woman attorney that we heard from at the end, have been very well educated as to many things the "GB/ ORG" can do, you really have to know the mind of them, don't you?

  The subtleties, the nuances, the innuendos, the twisting and manipulation are difficult for the outsider to get a good grasp of.
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  An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.

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  cha ching

  I agree Marvin, JW's claim elders are suppose to be shepherds and look out for the flock, right?

  However, whenever you do not put someone's best interests first, you clearly are not 'looking out for them.'